Friday, October 2, 2015

Summary: A day after the shooting that occurred in Oregon, Hillary Clinton made a speech to a crowd regarding the issue and how it relates to the Republicans and the NRA. She said that "Every time there’s another massacre, the Republicans and the N.R.A. say, ‘It’s not the time to talk about guns.’ Yes, it is. It is time to act, but Republicans continue to refuse to do anything to protect our communities. They put the N.R.A. ahead of American families." She then says that those who support the NRA need to meet the those affected by the deaths of their loved ones as a result of the shooter's actions. 

What do you think? Is Hillary Clinton right that Republicans put the NRA above the safety of American families? Is the NRA to blame for shootings such as this one, or something else? Should gun laws be changed?

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/10/02/hillary-clinton-on-n-r-a-s-hold-over-republicans-it-sickens-me/


31 comments:

  1. Good topic, can you give us more clarity on why she is blaming the NRA? What is the NRA's General response to school shootings?

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  2. A representative from the NRA stated, "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." Shootings in schools do happen and it is impossible to tell when it will happen. However, the rates of deaths by guns has decrease over centuries in the United States. The NRA was also appalled by the shootings, but they do not believe that taking guns away from the public is the solution. Hilary believes that guns are terrible and must be taken away. First of all the second amendment protects out right to bear arms. Second, if guns are taken from the public, criminals will still be able to find a way to access guns. This leaves innocent citizens defenseless. The NRA is not responsible for the shootings, it is the government's lack of understanding and supporting individuals with mental illnesses. Rather than taking guns away, more funding should be put into education on guns and how to be responsible around them. If schools teach the precautions that one must need for handling guns, the problem with irresponsible gun behaviors will decrease.

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    1. To start, Hilary does not things guns should be banned. In fact, she recently said, "I support sensible regulation that is consistent with the constitutional right to own and bear arms.". It is also untrue that good people having guns takes away risk of being harmed by a gun. On the contrary, studies have shown that a victim is more likely to be harmed by their firearms than to use them in defense. In adition, states with more gun ownership show overwhelmingly more gun related deaths. As for the mental illness factor, it is silly to put 100% of the blame on the government for not caring for the mentally ill. While their poor mental health may be the reason they shot, our loose regulation is the reason the gun was in there hands.

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  3. It seems as if the only reason the NRA maintains their support for the right to own firearms is to keep a strict enforcement of the second amendment. Due to how the second amendment is one of the original components of the Bill of Rights, the NRA would see it as a national defeat if their rights were to be stripped from them. That being said, it is apparent that the republicans care more about the conservation of the Bill of Rights than they do about the safety of american families. To say that the NRA is at fault for the shooting would be a false statement. However, the NRA always seems to shift the blame of gun violence to other areas like mental health. Mental health is a serious issue when it comes to violence, but it seems as if the NRA is doing little to combat this. Weapons are too easily accessible, and it would take a serious disaster for congress to even consider a change in gun laws.

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  4. I really enjoyed how we picked similar topics. I do think you should of found Hillary's proposed changes to our current gun control and added them to your summary. Anyways, when a shooting occurs, I don't believe the NRA is to blame, but they are extremely obligated, if not required to make a public response to the events. And while I also think gun safety reform finally needs to just come to a decision, it's unfortunate that the topic is most talked about in the wake of tragedies.

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  5. While it makes sense that the republicans would but the NRA over families because a lot of the Republican votes are gun owners. this makes them prioritize what problems to focus on and campaign for. While the NRA isn't helping anything, there should be more gun control. The NRA is not at fault for this unfortunate incident but i think as a nation we need to find a way to regulate guns in every state. Implementing stricter gun laws would probably be a good start.

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  6. I believe that the NRA should be in no way accountable for an tragic incident that was out of their own control. It's also unsurprising that the Republicans would concentrate on expediting the growth of the NRA over focusing on familial issues. You could say that the NRA's detrimental impact on gun control is a major factor in the issue. However, I firmly believe that this issue goes farther than simply the NRA. I firmly believe that the United States has had serious problems when it comes to firearms since its inception. Gun violence within the U.S. results in thousands of deaths annually and in 2010, U.S. taxpayers paid roughly $516 million in hospital bills as a result. In a country where 67% of all homicides are conducted by using some form of firearm, I believe that we should have more rigorous and severe gun control laws in all states.

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  7. I do not think the NRA can be blamed for the action of one person. Although there have been many shootings recently, the NRA cannot control the actions of these people with access to guns. Even if guns were outlawed, people would still find access to them. I believe there should be a lot stricter regulations on guns from the government/ state as violence relating to guns has increased over the years.

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  8. I do not think the NRA can be blamed for the action of one person. Although there have been many shootings recently, the NRA cannot control the actions of these people with access to guns. Even if guns were outlawed, people would still find access to them. I believe there should be a lot stricter regulations on guns from the government/ state as violence relating to guns has increased over the years.

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  9. The NRA nor Republicans are to be blamed for the shooting. The NRA should take this event as well as many other mass shootings into account and devise a better way to prevent them from happening. Yes, the 2nd Amendment protects people's right to keep and bear arms, but there should be a limit or guidelines to what they can do with their guns. There is no way that ALL guns can be regulated since quite a few are unaccounted for, so banning guns altogether is simply out of the question. Also, since most of the shooters were mentally ill, mental health care should be more accessible. That way, the number of shootings would diminish.

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  10. The NRA nor Republicans are to be blamed for the shooting. The NRA should take this event as well as many other mass shootings into account and devise a better way to prevent them from happening. Yes, the 2nd Amendment protects people's right to keep and bear arms, but there should be a limit or guidelines to what they can do with their guns. There is no way that ALL guns can be regulated since quite a few are unaccounted for, so banning guns altogether is simply out of the question. Also, since most of the shooters were mentally ill, mental health care should be more accessible. That way, the number of shootings would diminish.

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  11. The NRA should not be responsible for the actions of individuals, as they are simply trying to uphold the second amendment. However, i think it should be the NRAs responsibility to promote a more thorough process before owning a gun. This isn't stripping the people their right to bear arms it is just a precaution to ensure the lives of American families. Clearly the NRAs intent is not to harm the welfare of Americans, so Hillary is wrong with that statement.

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  12. Simply put, enough is enough. Lawmakers have had enough chances to enact stricter gun control and change lives. But the NRA's excessive power in Washington has made it hard for these mass shootings to be prevented. The GOP needs to realize that this is not a mental health issue. It has been statistically proven that gun ownership increases violence, and that the best way to obtain saftey in a community is to have a limited armory in the hands of law enforcement, not in the hands of citizens.

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  13. Simply put, enough is enough. Lawmakers have had enough chances to enact stricter gun control and change lives. But the NRA's excessive power in Washington has made it hard for these mass shootings to be prevented. The GOP needs to realize that this is not a mental health issue. It has been statistically proven that gun ownership increases violence, and that the best way to obtain saftey in a community is to have a limited armory in the hands of law enforcement, not in the hands of citizens.

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  14. I don't think we can place blame on the NRA for the shooters' actions. However, I do believe these situations have given enough proof and chances to change the gun control laws. The NRA has the power make laws that will create a safer society to live in. People also need to understand that even if there are stricter gun control laws that does not mean all gun possession will be taken away. The gun laws will simply help prevent guns from getting into the hands of the wrong people.

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  15. I don't believe that the NRA is at fault for these shootings, nor that Republicans put them before the safety of American families. I believe that by trying to promote the NRA, Republicans are simply trying to secure the freedom and right of the citizens to keep and bear arms; a right they believe could be violated due to recent issues regarding gun control and gun violence. The NRA isn't to blame for gun violence, it's the individuals who have created the violence. In my opinion, gun laws shouldn't be changed, but reviewed and improved upon. As of right now, they are not that strict. But strict doesn't have to mean it's limiting our rights. One proposed idea would be to make the process of buying a gun stricter, so the institution or individual selling the gun knows that the person they sold it to can handle the responsibility that comes with it. This wouldn't limit freedoms in any way, it would just make people work a little harder to get a gun, which definitely isn't a bad thing.

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  16. I think that the NRA does need to realize that there is a problem with guns and violence in this country. With the rising numbers of shootings and deaths, we as a nation should all realize that these innocent lives could be saved if there is a more regulated system in gun ownership. I understand that Republicans and the NRA are trying to preserve the right to bear arms, but when it comes down to it, the safety of American citizens should be the priority.

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  17. No one is specifically at fault for these mass shootings except for the shooters. However, it is much too easy to acquire a gun in this country, and that is where the NRA is to blame. While most gun owners may be careful with their guns, the truth is that not everyone is as careful and that limitations should be put in place to protect the public. A country must have laws that take into account even the most reckless of citizens or else situations like these will not go away.

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  18. As much as I wish for the NRA to be more restricted, by doing so, we would be defying the second amendment. In my eyes, the NRA is somewhat responsible for what happened, but not entirely. It is not their fault that people act out of spite and hurt other people when doing so, but it is their fault in that they support gun rights. I do think that incidents like the shooting in Oregon could be avoided if their was stricter restrictions on guns and who is able to obtain them, so in that aspect, they are responsible for what happened.

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  19. As much as I wish for the NRA to be more restricted, by doing so, we would be defying the second amendment. In my eyes, the NRA is somewhat responsible for what happened, but not entirely. It is not their fault that people act out of spite and hurt other people when doing so, but it is their fault in that they support gun rights. I do think that incidents like the shooting in Oregon could be avoided if their was stricter restrictions on guns and who is able to obtain them, so in that aspect, they are responsible for what happened.

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  20. The NRA's stubborn denial certainly isn't helping to stop school shootings. Claiming that the Republicans and the NRA hold entire responsibility for these mass shootings would be a logical fallacy. The NRA does hold some responsibility for the shootings, as their adamant protests of any gun restrictions (such as harsher background checks) allowed many shooters to easily obtain their guns.
    From the standpoint of the NRA and most Republicans, gun laws shouldn't become stricter, as the rights to bear and keep arms as a right secured to Americans within the 2nd amendment. They argue that stricter gun control would be unconstitutional government intervention into the rights of Americans. However, I believe that the government's promise to maintain the general welfare comes before the right to own guns. Gun laws definitely should be changed. As Clinton seems to know (based on her statement about her stance on the issue from the NYTimes article), gun control will certainly be a prominent topic in the upcoming Presidential campaign.

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  21. Neither the NRA nor the republicans can be blamed for the actions of an individual. Although the NRA has the responsibility of gun safety, they cannot control the decisions made by people with access to guns. When Hillary Clinton said that “the Republicans put the N.R.A. ahead of American families”, I believe she only made this grand of a statement in order to push her point. I believe gun laws should be modified and be strictly enforced. However, no matter the amount of laws the government places on firearms, people will always find a way to get guns.

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  22. While the N.R.A is too powerful for it's own good, the reality is that you have to look at the person behind the gun rather than the gun itself. There should be even stricter regulations acquiring an automatic weapon than there already is, perhaps a sanity test, but no matter how many regulations you impose, people will find a way to get their hands on these weapons. The real issue is mental health reform and getting help for these disturbed people.

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  23. While the N.R.A is too powerful for it's own good, the reality is that you have to look at the person behind the gun rather than the gun itself. There should be even stricter regulations acquiring an automatic weapon than there already is, perhaps a sanity test, but no matter how many regulations you impose, people will find a way to get their hands on these weapons. The real issue is mental health reform and getting help for these disturbed people.

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  24. In the reality, republicans should have responsibilities that not doing anything to stop the death in next shooting. Not reacting is no difference with helping. N.R.A. should not be blamed because it just support the rights of citizens to arm themselves. People who killed people pull the trigger by there own mind, not because they are asked to do by N.R.A. I think Clinton's point is very critical because if republicans think rights is more important than people dying, so they do nothing. It is the same as putting N.R.A before citizens life. However, it will not be the reason that they are blamed of the death occurs because it is blamed by the on who make decision to pull the trigger. The laws changes is necessary now because there is people dying and the government should do something to stop it or regulate it.

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  25. Republicans hold on to their guns over just about anything. For some reason, to Republicans, the possession of a deadly weapon is as sacred as religion. No one can disagree that the gun violence that has been occurring needs to be stopped. An easy solution would be to only allow policemen to carry firearms, but the 2nd Amendment has already guaranteed that everyone has the right to be a gun owner. The NRA is not to blame for these deaths, but the lack of regulation and protection against guns is. I don't think Hillary was blaming the NRA, I think she was just simply saying that if gun owners and advocaters heard from the families of those killed by these mass public shootings, they would support stricter regulations as well. I have always been scared and uninterested in guns or any activity relating to guns, but I do understand the sacredness of guns and the tradition they have in many families. Although they have uses, they are not meant to be as accessible as they currently are. People need protection and gun advocates need to understand the violence associated with guns.

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  26. While many americns think that having guns regulated is a =in violation of the 2nd admendment. People who support the republican party have interestes in having no restrictions on gun control. The NRA should not be involved in the deaths of these people because it is not their fault. I believe that there should be tighter restrictions on buying guns and a more through check on the background of these people.

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  27. While many americns think that having guns regulated is a =in violation of the 2nd admendment. People who support the republican party have interestes in having no restrictions on gun control. The NRA should not be involved in the deaths of these people because it is not their fault. I believe that there should be tighter restrictions on buying guns and a more through check on the background of these people.

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  28. I think that the NRA has too much power, but in this case I think you can't look only at the gun control policies of the USA. You must look case by case, and make adjustments to the policy holistically. Of course the second amendment exists. I don't think it applies to today's America, and this is why the gun control issue is always changing.

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  29. I don't believe that the NRA is at fault. It is true the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Trying to take all the guns away is not only impractical, but it also limits our rights. It's simple, do you think somebody would try to rob a bank or shoot up a school if he thought there could be a lot of people potentially bearing arms. If you're a good person before owning a gun, owning a gun won't make you want to shoot someone. More guns will limit violence and protect our citizens

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  30. I disagree with Hillary Clinton point of view that NRA puts gun rights over people. Individuals are granted by the 2nd Amendment the right to bear arms.Our government created the amendments to protect our liberties. Thus individuals, should not be stripped or violated by restrictions of their rights. The NRA and republicans are protecting the rights and liberties of the people of the United States of America. We shouldn't waste our money restrict our rights and liberties, but focus on creating required classes in our public schools that will educate students about preventing gun issues. Also, we should spend more money on facilities that could benefit individuals who have disabilities.

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